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Dule Mars

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« Reply #75 on: September 29, 2013, 10:41:49 pm »
raspakuj bilo koji src.rpm, i pogledaj patcheve za zlib ili fips; posebno pogledaj hubble skriptu čija je jedina svrha da više puta tokom rpmbuilda doslovno izbacuje i zagađuje delove koda. 

Ja bih daleko pre pripisao izbacivanje EC i ostalog tipicno americkom strahu oko bilo kakvog sudjenja u vezi patenata, nego nekakvoj sabotazi od strane NSA.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ECC_patents

Dakle ECC nije bas potpuno slobodan softver, zar ne? Ako Certicom-u dune da tuzi RedHat, mogao bi da ih eventualno odere. Nekomercijalne distribucije koje koriste ECC nisu u opasnosti, jednostavno nisu dobra meta za tuzbu jer nemaju para koje bi im mogle biti oduzete :)

Dosta bre vise paranoisanja, prvo, u OpenSSL-u i bez ECC ima dovoljno kriptografske snage da stitimo svoju privatnost sve do entropijske smrti univerzuma; drugo, niko ne moze da nas spreci da bildujemo svoj RPM u kome ce ECC biti ukljucen, zar ne?
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« Reply #76 on: September 30, 2013, 08:20:23 am »
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Ako Certicom-u dune da tuzi RedHat, mogao bi da ih eventualno odere.
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A ako im dune da upute pismo upozorenja (cease and desist letter) korisnicima RHEL (onako kako je upozoravan Dr. Jurgen u vezi Biogen patenta) i njima zapreti tuzbama, mogao bi da unisti RHEL business - vecina bi prestala da koristi (i placa) RHEL.

Medjutim, zasto Fedora, ona je community proizvod?

Dule Mars

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« Reply #77 on: September 30, 2013, 09:42:40 am »
Verovatno zato jer je Fedora poligon za testiranje novotarija koje na kraju zavrse u RHEL-u, pa im je pogodno da baza sistema bude sto je moguce slicnija.
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« Reply #78 on: September 30, 2013, 03:08:31 pm »
Ja bih daleko pre pripisao izbacivanje EC i ostalog tipicno americkom strahu oko bilo kakvog sudjenja u vezi patenata, nego nekakvoj sabotazi od strane NSA.

Patentirane su samo stvari koje americki zakon dozvoljava, matematiku ne mozes patentirati cak ni u SAD. Bilo kako bilo, u OpenBSD-u je ECC osnovni, a drugi nacini poput RSA su sekundarni nacini generisanja i upotrebe kljuceva, jos od OpenSSH 5.7; tako je do danas, koliko je meni poznato, ECC ostala "iskljucena" samo u Fedori/RedHat-derivatima, a kod svih drugih je ECC postala primarna. Dodatno, i u linkovima s Wikipedije do pojedinih patenata u vezi ECC moze da se procita da su svi (svakako nebitni) patenti u vezi ECC istekli jos 2005. godine.

Distro koji su mesto developera poceli da oblikuju i diktiraju pravnici zreo je za promenu.

A sto se NSA i americkog spijuniranja tice, mislim da su bez presedana.

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« Reply #80 on: October 03, 2013, 12:16:33 pm »
Interesantan deo njegove strane price:
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Lavabit Founder Waged Privacy Fight as F.B.I. Pursued Snowden


DALLAS — One day last May, Ladar Levison returned home to find an F.B.I. agent’s business card on his Dallas doorstep. So began a four-month tangle with law enforcement officials that would end with Mr. Levison’s shutting the business he had spent a decade building and becoming an unlikely hero of privacy advocates in their escalating battle with the government over Internet security.

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“It was the equivalent of asking Coca-Cola to hand over its secret formula,” Mr. Levison said.

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 “This wasn’t about one person,” Mr. Levison said. “This was about the lengths our government was willing to go to conduct Internet surveillance on one person.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/10/03/us/snowdens-e-mail-provider-discusses-pressure-from-fbi-to-disclose-data.html?_r=0
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« Reply #81 on: May 13, 2014, 04:14:56 pm »
Holly bird! NSA otvarala pošiljke opreme, poput Cisco rutera, kalemila bube, i tek onda prosleđivala kupcima:

http://www.democracynow.org/2014/5/13/collect_it_all_glenn_greenwald_on

Ako ovo ne podigne u nebo globalnu potražnju za BSD adminima, ne znam šta će :P

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« Reply #82 on: September 12, 2014, 07:43:17 am »
Mislim da ova vest moze da ide ovde.

Yahoo otkrio da mu je bilo zapreceno kaznom od 250.000 necega dnevno u slucajuda ne preda user data NSA, s tim sto bi se visina kazne duplirala svake nedelje dok ne postupi po nalogu

http://www.businessweek.com/news/2014-09-11/yahoo-faced-250-000-day-fine-for-not-giving-u-dot-s-dot-its-user-data

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« Reply #83 on: February 01, 2015, 02:01:45 pm »
Jeste da nam ovaj thread služi i za raznorazni otpad na temu Five-eyes-špijuniranja, ali nije loš link, pa da ne propada:

https://www.nsa-observer.net/

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« Reply #84 on: October 06, 2016, 01:04:26 am »
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/06/us/nsa-leak-booz-allen-hamilton.html

Kazu da nije novi Snowden.

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WASHINGTON — The F.B.I. secretly arrested a National Security Agency contractor in recent weeks and is investigating whether he stole and disclosed highly classified computer code developed to hack into the networks of foreign governments, according to several senior law enforcement and intelligence officials.

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« Reply #85 on: October 15, 2016, 08:00:32 am »
http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/cia-prepping-possible-cyber-strike-against-russia-n666636

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« Reply #86 on: November 07, 2016, 09:58:02 pm »
Ma ko ti zamera, samo udri. :)
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